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And also. . .

Brwn.Skn — Fri, 09 May 2008 13:55:22 -0700

The state of Tennessee will allow two mothers or two fathers to be on the birth certificate. . .when I had a partner our plan was to have a scheduled C-section or induction in TN because we live in AL. . .but now that I have no partner. . I don't have to do that extra traveling. . .Good Luck!

And also. . .

Fri, 09 May 2008 13:53:06 -0700

For anyone else that may be reading this and have the same question. . .the state of TN will allow both mothers to be on the birth certificate as well. . .I'm in AL and when I had a partner the plan was to go to TN for labor and delivery so both our names would be on the certificate. . .

2 moms on birth certificate

my2moms — Sat, 03 May 2008 13:23:05 -0700

Our first daughter was born in MA where we are legally married and we are both on her birth certificate. One as mother and one as second parent. With our newest daughter, she was born in ME where we are "roomates" so right now only the biological mom is on the birth certificate and the father space in blank. But we are in the process of a 2nd parent adoption (which have been legal here for less than a year) and then we will both be on the birth certificate!

we had our baby

Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:57:56 -0700

my partner and i had our baby in San Francisco. his birth certificate has both of our names on it. i am listed as the father since she was the one who carried the baby. even with my name on the birth certificate we were still afraid that we might have a problem if he were to get ill in other states. so we applied for me to legally adopt him. we had an social worker to come and visit and check my background. in 6 plus months i became his adopted parent. we went to court and got sworn in and sign papers. Now I carry a copy of his birth certificate and the legal paper that shows i am his legal parent in my wallet. it is scary and we did everything to try to protect him and us. we started to write our will too.

need info

mommyzrus917 — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:58:30 -0700

i actually would like to look into that for myself. now that we are trying to have another baby the new baby will have my partners last name. same as our first child. so i would like to change mine as well. PLEASE i dont even know where i have to go to begin the process....and information you have could you please let me know. as for the reason for the change could you put so you share the same family name as your partner or soon to be child? or is that not a good enough reason?? please let me know
~*Tracy & Crystalyn*~

my partner and i had our

mommyzrus917 — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:45:19 -0700

my partner and i had our first child in NY state and as far as i know we were both not allowed to be listed on the birth certificate. however i have read a couple of other stories with two fathers being on there. im sorry i oculdnt help you but if you find out another way of going about it could you blog the info i would love the information and im sure many others would as well!! good luck with your baby
~*Tracy & Crystalyn*~

re:

mommyzrus917 — Sun, 06 Apr 2008 22:10:49 -0700

and we just moved out of NY????
GO FIGURE!

its just wrong

Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:43:24 -0800

what if this were about blacks? There would be outrage and there should be about this!

yea

Sun, 03 Feb 2008 16:34:01 -0800

KICKASS!

Gay Dad of an Enthusiastic Scout

GeneTroy — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 00:57:07 -0800

I was a scout. Back then I never questioned my sexuality; I simply did what was expected, including marrying and starting a family of my own. I enjoyed my time in scouting and would encourage every boy to consider it.

While I wish things had been more obvious to me before I married, I could never wish away my son. He is currently in Cub Scouts and plans to continue on into Boy Scouts.

I, myself, have elected to not pursue a leadership position in his troop. While I am out to my son's mom, the other parents in the troop do not know that I am gay; I don't want my son to deal with that stigma so young.

Right now his mom is more active in his scouting than I am. This is pretty typical for Cub Scouts, I believe. As he transitions into Boy Scouts, however, I plan to be more active in his scouting. I do not know that I will "out" myself to the others, but I hope to accompany him on all of the father/son activities that will arise.

Am I being dishonest in the scouting community? No.

Am I being less than open in the scouting community? Absolutely!

I think that scouting can be a positive experience for anybody's son ... it's up to me, though, to show him that the ways and philosophies of The Scouts are not "The Way." He's already fiercely independent in his passions and philosophies, so I forsee absolutely no chance of having to "de-program" him from their exclusivist philosophies. Besides ... if all of the gay dad's involved in scouting were to suddenly withdraw their support the organization would suffer greatly, if not fall completely.

If your son(s) show interest in scouting, support that interest. Be as "out" as you need to be, and make sure that your sons know that an organizations failure to keep up with social evolution does not exclude them, necessarily, from participation.

Bi National debacle

Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:17:28 -0800

I adopted our first daughter from an orphanage in Vietnam when she was a baby. I share custody with my ex - we have a great co-parenting arrangement and live mere blocks from each other. This daughter is now 11 and has known my current partner since she was four years of age. My current partner and I are CA domestic partners and we inseminated and had our baby girl. California law gave me, the non-bio mom a right to be on the birth certificate, recognized automatically as a legal parent, by virtue of our DP status. So now we have our family - of four; two moms and two daughters and are plagued by the anomaly of State legal recognition and federal invalidation.

My DP is from abroad and her working visa will soon expire. How dare O'Reilly place me and my babies at a disadvantage for those few that will abuse the system; and it will be no different to the few heterosexuals that have abused the system for years.

My family will be torn apart- because I cannot petition for my partner. I will be faced with my sophie's choice. First daughter cannot leave the State and my second daughter will have to leave with my partner, because she is the bio mom and I would never separate them. Imagine my kids and I are American citizens and we have no rights to stay as a unit and keep together in our own country- the great America - so concerned about human rights in the rest of the world?

It will be like a death for us. the sisters adore each other- if you are a parent and you have a family, close your eyes and imagine that this is you- because we are the same as you; four people who love and depend on each other.
So to O'Reilly et al, I guess it is okay for those privileged enough to have marriage and the rights that go with it, to go to the alter and endure a three day marriage or a two year marriage or whatever, but my family must be torn apart with no rights because you ‘Mr. O ‘ fear that people may abuse the system. I challenge you to have real families such as mine on your show and to repeat what you "OPINE" to my face.

Not quite the whole truth, eh?

Wed, 02 Jan 2008 12:50:05 -0800

Note there's no comment from Mr. Obama about the part about full equality. Mr. Obama maintains that "separate but equal" is ok. Really now. You'd think a black man, above all the rest, would understand and know better than that. And no, NHers don't have all the same rights, responsibilities and obligations as those who are married, and won't, as long as the Feds continue our classist society. But it's a nice start.

About time

Wed, 02 Jan 2008 07:38:23 -0800

The more politicians realalize that Gay people are being treated like they are less deserveing than other people and are treated like second class humans in this country, then the myth of agenda will only be exploited and turned into hate. Cann't we just all get along and accept each other for whom they were born.

Don't let your boys grow up in the BSA

Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:13:36 -0800

I was an Eagle Scout, and an Asst Scoutmaster, and so was my brother. I'm gay, he's not. I asked my mother if she would have enrolled us in the BSA today, knowing what she now knows. She said yes, and I was aghast. She always was a Pollyanna though, and heaven forbid rocking the boat.

The National BSA adults continue to hold the boys hostage because the individual councils are in too much disagreement to unify against them, and no one within the organization wants to tackle this issue because they know they're wrong, and there is huge secondary gain with all the taxpayers' support AND the religious support. The BSA loves having their cake and eating it too.

Meanwhile, its obvious to me that the majority of parents wish to think of their pubescent children as asexual, and continue pretending that these kids don't have really important issues in that area, all the while enrolling them in a paramilitary organization. Whether or not the leaders are talking about it, I can assure you that your kids are talking about it.

As for the traditional values crap, because we moved a lot, I was in many troops with many leaders, from Cub Scout to Asst Scoutmaster, all in the good ol' boy Bible Belt South. The traditional values that I saw from beginning to end was misogyny, drinking, smoking, cursing, and calling the queer kids (like me) out. And my last troop was "sponsored" by the First Baptist Church.

Our last Scoutmaster later volunteered for the Girl Scouts, where he was kicked out for molesting little girls. Yes, that's right, not the homosexual predator that all the Victorians here are so petrified by.

When it comes down to it though, I find it curious that the BSA acts as if it holds such a monopoly on helping boys mature that its adults can so flippantly violate its own laws - trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent, but only occasionally and to some.... Maybe they should add misogynist, hypocritical, sanctimonious, prejudiced, and heterosexist?

Well Hi to all.

Sat, 22 Dec 2007 08:30:06 -0800

Hello

Just stopping in to say hi to y'all as a new member.

Aaron